[15:10] Na_nashi> [12:06 AM] Pinkie: nashi, answer me
[15:10] HiderHeaven> ..........talk amongst yourselves....
[15:10] Na_nashi> Pinkie, answer me
[15:10] Pinkie> and you did
[15:10] Na_nashi> So do me the same courtesy please
[15:10] Pinkie> yes
[15:11] maggie4818mag> i like Pinkiee and i think she dont deserve all that hider and nashi ...
[15:11] Pinkie> I used to cry, maggie
[15:11] Pinkie> but not anymore
[15:11] Na_nashi> You won't answer ?
[15:11] Pinkie> was scrolling
[15:11] Na_nashi> k
[15:11] Pinkie> i have tears in my eyes (yes I lied:P) and didnt read everything
[15:12] maggie4818mag> hmmmm hider things never change ..eh
[15:12] Pinkie> yes nashi you came in here when the room was occupied
[15:12] maggie4818mag> and u Nashi ....
[15:12] Pinkie> but didnt you want to see them gone?
[15:12] Na_nashi> no Pinkie I never wanted to see anyone gone
[15:12] Na_nashi> You'd get by a lot better if you didn't impute the worst of motives to people (such as myself)
[15:12] maggie4818mag> u sure nashi ??
[15:13] maggie4818mag> even me ?
[15:13] Pinkie> i wish I believe you nashi
[15:13] (Enter)> even_here
[15:13] Na_nashi> least of all you maggie
[15:13] Pinkie> but then again
[15:13] Pinkie> i learned something: i will not fight for this room again
[15:13] Na_nashi> Pinkie, in the end, what you think and believe is up to you
[15:13] Pinkie> if they will emprove the game, i will play here and I will welcome everybody
[15:13] Pinkie> same with you nashi
[15:14] Pinkie> but none of you will make me cry again
[15:14] Na_nashi> But just be aware that you kinda surprise me with some of your statemenets and beliefs
[15:14] Na_nashi> particualrly about me
[15:14] maggie4818mag> thats my pinkiee
))
[15:14] Pinkie> hehe maggie, you do know I lie
[15:14] Na_nashi> You impute things to me and I wionder, where on earth is she geting this stuff from ?
[15:14] maggie4818mag> LOL
[15:14] Pinkie> and maggie? you were always here for me
[15:14] Pinkie> and maggie? you were always here for me
[15:14] maggie4818mag> u are romanian ...for who esle to be here
[15:14] Pinkie> nashi, all I know is you didnt like to see here some people
[15:15] Na_nashi> Pinkie, you are incorrect
[15:15] Pinkie> ok
[15:15] Na_nashi> just as you were incorrect about why I cme into this room tonight
[15:15] Pinkie> i wil not start this again,m we talked a ot about it, nashi
[15:15] maggie4818mag> u dont want to see me here too nashi ?
[15:15] Na_nashi> Just as you were incorrect as to why I stopped programmign at WGC
[15:15] Na_nashi> Just like you seem to be incorrect about a lot of things, sorry to say
[15:16] Na_nashi> fine
[15:16] Pinkie> nashi, the day you will admit you are wrong in something, I will reconsider many of my opinions
[15:16] Na_nashi> ummmm
[15:16] Pinkie> please sayb you are wrong in something
[15:16] Na_nashi> for isntance .... ?
[15:16] Pinkie> hehe
[15:16] Pinkie> dont know
[15:16] Pinkie> something
[15:16] Na_nashi> lol
[15:16] Pinkie> anything
[15:16] Na_nashi> well okay.
[15:17] maggie4818mag> he know he was wrong soe many things pinkiee ...but he wont admit it
[15:17] maggie4818mag> typical man
[15:17] Pinkie> thats true maggie
[15:17] Na_nashi> lol
15:17] Pinkie> not too many men admit it
[15:17] maggie4818mag> yup pinkiee
[15:17] Pinkie> how is your spades games improving, maggie?
[15:17] Na_nashi> I've been wrong in a lot of things Pinkie, now you are just being silly
[15:18] Pinkie> good, nashi:) now im not scared of you being perfect
[15:18] Na_nashi> i was certainly wrong to go straight from high school to University nd study Economics
[15:18] Pinkie> oh dear
[15:18] Na_nashi> is that good enough for you ?
[15:18] maggie4818mag> oh my
[15:18] Pinkie> mpost men when they admit they are wrong they in fact brag themseleves:P
[15:18] Pinkie> nope
[15:19] Na_nashi> Am I bragging about myself ?
[15:19] Pinkie> i want you to admit you were wrong when expressed an opinion, not making a decision
[15:19] Na_nashi> well you might have made that a bit clearer in the first place
[15:19] Pinkie> you know, opinions cant ever be wrong, unless the one who stayted admits it
[15:19] Na_nashi> but okay
[15:19] Pinkie> stated
[15:20] Na_nashi> I believed that Ronn was totally correct when he said Kingsley was a crook
[15:20] Na_nashi> Now I am not so sure
[15:21] Na_nashi> I put my total faith in the word of one person, and didn't bother to hear the views of the other person
[15:21] maggie4818mag> nashi i am waiting your appologize ... about your wrong thinking for me
[15:21] Na_nashi> And that is wrong
[15:21] Pinkie> isnt this opinion based on the fact you were upset?
[15:21] Na_nashi> It was nothing to do with me directly, I was only on the outside watching
[15:21] Pinkie> yes
[15:22] maggie4818mag> yeah u are always outside watching nashi rigth ?
[15:22] Pinkie> i only believe what i see
[15:22] Na_nashi> Is that good nough Pinkie ?
[15:22] Pinkie> kinda, nashi
[15:22] Na_nashi> sigh
[15:22] Pinkie> are you still a friend of ronn's?
[15:22] Na_nashi> Well I'm working without a net here
[15:23] Na_nashi> You obviously want something *specific* from me, but you aren't telling me what it is
[15:23] maggie4818mag> yeah nashi i want that u unbann me there nashi
[15:23] Pinkie> i dont , just wanted to see if your change in opinion has something to do with the way you feel
[15:23] maggie4818mag> ok ok i am off for while brb
[15:23] Na_nashi> I haven't had any communication with Ronn for a long time. We parted on excellent terms.
[15:24] Na_nashi> so what do you want from me?
[15:24] Pinkie> nothing nashi
[15:25] Pinkie> just wanted to make you admit you can be wrong:)
[15:25] Na_nashi> You want me to tell you of an instance where I have changed my mind -- or admitted I made a mistake --- how exactly ?
[15:25] Na_nashi> I've admitted I can be wrong, and given two examples
[15:25] Na_nashi> Yet you won't accept them
[15:25] Pinkie> one was about a decision
[15:25] Pinkie> the other one was related directly to you
[15:25] Pinkie> probably i wanted something more personal
[15:26] Na_nashi> Such as?
[15:26] Na_nashi> Give me a scenario that is closer to what you want
[15:26] Pinkie> for instance..hmmm
[15:26] HiderHeaven> ok back
[15:26] Na_nashi> wb
[15:26] HiderHeaven> pinkie - you really have no business being a host
[15:26] HiderHeaven> you are far too sensitive
[15:26] Pinkie> you were wrong when you bthought I am biased because I like nathan
[15:26] HiderHeaven> my opinion
[15:27] Pinkie> thats your opinion
[15:27] Pinkie> I think my weakness its my strength
[15:27] Na_nashi> Did I say you were biased ?
[15:27] Pinkie> and I do a very good job while monitoring
[15:27] Pinkie> but you treated me as if I were
[15:27] HiderHeaven> you run when the heat gets turned up - seen that many times too
[15:27] Na_nashi> I have said you were naive
[15:27] Na_nashi> Well there Pinkie, you are falling into the same trap as maggie
[15:28] HiderHeaven> that's why the group liked you here as a plus
[15:28] Pinkie> i ran when i was in my player nic, hider
[15:28] HiderHeaven> no you ran as a plus
[15:28] Na_nashi> maggie thinks I called in teh SHG people to ban her, and she demands an apology from me for it
[15:28] Pinkie> i8 dont think was fair for me to return as p[-lus
[15:28] Na_nashi> Fact is, I never did call in anyone, and so I can't apologise
[15:28] Na_nashi> Now if you are saying you think I was treating you as if you were biased ....
[15:28] Pinkie> I never ever ran as a plus, leaving a room a mess
[15:28] Pinkie> ever
[15:28] Na_nashi> .... then you are making a subjective judgment.
[15:29] Pinkie> all opinions arte subjective, nashi
[15:29] HiderHeaven> you are far too fond of space and his friends to be objective
[15:29] Na_nashi> And I can't apologise to your for your own subjective judgments
[15:29] HiderHeaven> that was very obvious
[15:29] Pinkie> opinions arent based on true/false
[15:29] HiderHeaven> and you alllowed when in room as a plus nasty things from space's mouth about other s
[15:29] Pinkie> i dont ask for an appology
[15:29] HiderHeaven> we all have witnessed that
[15:29] Pinkie> I can take every opinions such as they are stated
[15:29] Na_nashi> Well Pinkie, I need you to give me a better suggestion for something to apologise about
[15:29] Pinkie> nashi
[15:29] HiderHeaven> nashi, why do you care?
[15:29] Pinkie> i want you to admit, not to appologise
[15:29] Na_nashi> or not to apologise about, but to demonstrate I was wrong
[15:30] Pinkie> nobosdy can be blamed for his opinions
[15:30] HiderHeaven> pinkie, why do you care?
[15:30] Pinkie> not even hider
[15:30] Na_nashi> well hider, because I like Pinkie
[15:30] HiderHeaven> nashi is pulling your chain pinkie, can't you tell
[15:30] Na_nashi> And it worries me that she has a problem with me that I can't seem to resolve
[15:30] Pinkie> the day I will change my attitude because I disagree with somebody will be a very sad day for me
[15:30] HiderHeaven> why be worried?
[15:30] Pinkie> look
[15:31] Pinkie> i have my own criteria in accepting people
[15:31] Pinkie> I like smart, funny, or both, nice or witty
[15:31] HiderHeaven> it this all about you pinkie?
[15:31] Pinkie> the others just lewt me indifferent
[15:31] Pinkie> i think so, hider
[15:32] HiderHeaven> well, get a grip
[15:32] Pinkie> and you seem annoyed by me more than usual
[15:32] HiderHeaven> I just think you are weak and get far too personal in here
[15:32] Na_nashi> okay Pinkie, how about this
[15:32] Pinkie> i admit
[15:32] Pinkie> im always too personal, but its me
[15:32] Pinkie> cant change
[15:32] HiderHeaven> that's why you don't make a good plus
[15:32] Na_nashi> I plyed a game a few days ago, with someone I am friends with
[15:33] Pinkie> one of my students said i like to do intellectual striptease
[15:33] Pinkie> ok nashi
[15:33] Na_nashi> This person made a very bone-headed play
[15:33] Pinkie> one of my students said i like to do intellectual striptease
[15:33] Pinkie> ok nashi
[15:33] Na_nashi> This person made a very bone-headed play
[15:33] Pinkie> what it means
[15:33] Na_nashi> And she started getting upset
[15:33] Pinkie> bone-headed
[15:33] HiderHeaven> stupid
[15:33] Pinkie> 4explain it please
[15:33] Pinkie> oh ok
[15:33] Na_nashi> And I then pointed out why it was a bone-headed play, and she got more upset and left the table, quitting the game
[15:34] Pinkie> ok
[15:34] Na_nashi> yes, stupid
[15:34] HiderHeaven> you should not make those remarks during a game nashi , that is low class
[15:34] Pinkie> i would have reacted the same
[15:34] Pinkie> wasnt what you said
[15:34] Pinkie> she reacted at the way you said it
[15:34] Na_nashi> sure
[15:34] Pinkie> women are very sensitive about the TONE
[15:34] Na_nashi> And I knew that this person didn't care too much abuot finer poitns of strategy. I knew it well enough
[15:34] HiderHeaven> and the timing was very poor
[15:35] Na_nashi> So I should not have laboured the point
[15:35] HiderHeaven> put a person down in front of others and that is low class
[15:35] Pinkie> you should have just appologised
[15:35] Na_nashi> And if you like, then this is a very big fault I have
[15:35] HiderHeaven> you should have dealt with her after the game and discussed it - that is how people learn
[15:35] Pinkie> you know whats your biggest faulot, in my opinion, nashi?
[15:35] Na_nashi> Which I will *FREELY* admit to, if I can possibly get you to accept the admission
[15:35] Pinkie> i agree hider
[15:36] madelief_5> thought good lowmanplayers learned the most of people they yelled at them
[15:36] Pinkie> but nashi, one of your biggest quality is also one of your biggest fault
[15:36] Pinkie> its your logic
[15:36] Pinkie> you based everything on logic
[15:36] Na_nashi> I'd agree with that too inkie
[15:36] Na_nashi> +P
[15:36] HiderHeaven> no, often times it is his arrogance
[15:36] madelief_5> hugsssssssss pinkie again
[15:36] Pinkie> but sometimes a perfect logic can be a mistake
[15:36] madelief_5> you so busy lol
[15:36] Na_nashi> \geez okay, now we're cooking
[15:36] Pinkie> hehe
[15:36] Na_nashi> I can also be arrogant
[15:36] Pinkie> yep
[15:36] HiderHeaven> youa re arrogant
[15:37] Na_nashi> you have me at an advantage Hider
[15:37] Na_nashi> So Pinkie, how are we doing ?
[15:37] Pinkie> we all can, sometimes hider
[15:37] HiderHeaven> it isn't always a bad quality
[15:38] HiderHeaven> it is good to think highly of oneself, but not at the expense of tohers
[15:38] Pinkie> you need to admit one more thing to me
[15:38] Na_nashi> and what is that ?
[15:38] Na_nashi> bearing in mind youa re adding more and more conditions here
[15:38] Pinkie> that all my intentions in what this room and people is concerned were genuine
[15:38] Pinkie> syllllllllllllllllllllllll
[15:38] Na_nashi> Yo did say earlier that all you needed from me was *one* admission
[15:38] Sylvia_Germany> hi pinkieeeeeee
))
[15:39] Pinkie> i am woman, i never get enough:P
[15:39] maggie4818mag> sylviaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa my favorite german !!!!
[15:39] Sylvia_Germany> IAM surprised that so many are here
[15:39] Na_nashi> Pinkie I am positive that all your intentions in this room have been absolutely genuine
[15:39] Sylvia_Germany> hi maggieeeeeeeeeee
[15:39] Pinkie> ty nashi
[15:39] HiderHeaven> how's the ladder at SHG going?
[15:39] Pinkie> haha nashi
[15:39] Pinkie> stop dat
[15:39] maggie4818mag> now Nashi and hider just tell how nice we are and thats all
[15:39] Na_nashi> I still think that you have been suckered in
[15:39] Pinkie> haha maggie
[15:39] maggie4818mag> : )
[15:39] Pinkie> nashi so many people try to use me
[15:39] Sylvia_Germany> you ask me how the ladder is in shg
[15:40] HiderHeaven> I didn't ask you , no
[15:40] Pinkie> and sometimes I let myself be used when and IF i consider its for a good cause
[15:40] Sylvia_Germany> ok ,, then i dont know about it
[15:40] Na_nashi> You have always acted with the best of intntions Pinkie, and others have taken advantage of you and used you because of it
[15:40] HiderHeaven> I agree totally
[15:40] Na_nashi> others don't always act with the same good intentions that you do
[15:40] Pinkie> nashi, I still like nathan, lillie and others
[15:40] Pinkie> as I like you too in many ways
[15:41] Pinkie> and i will always like the people I once liked
[15:41] Pinkie> i like maggie for her temper, for her innocence
[15:41] Sylvia_Germany> still only argus here no games eh lol
[15:41] Pinkie> i like syl for her way of telling people the truth up front
[15:41] HiderHeaven> yes, so go away
[15:41] Na_nashi> And Pinkie, I do not have a problem with that and never have
[15:41] Sylvia_Germany>
[15:41] HiderHeaven> =)
[15:41] Pinkie> i like you nashi because you are an intellectual
[15:42] Na_nashi> oh Pinkie, feck off lol
[15:42] Pinkie> and i like liefy because she is such a nice, tolerant person
[15:42] HiderHeaven> <---doesn't care if pinkie likes me or not =)
[15:42] madelief_5> ahhhhhhhhh that big beach
[15:42] Pinkie> hider, I dont know you very well
[15:42] Sylvia_Germany> was full with people
[15:42] Pinkie> you always played a role here
[15:42] madelief_5> avoid to go in between thats what i do
[15:45] Na_nashi> I didn't realise it was getting so late
[15:45] Pinkie> sleep well, nashi
[15:45] Pinkie> and ty for the chat
[15:46] HiderHeaven> g'nite na nashi dear
[15:46] Na_nashi> I will re-read this chat at my leisure later on after meetme posts it on her forum
[15:46] Na_nashi> nite all
[15:46] Sylvia_Germany> nite
[15:46] Pinkie> k
[15:46] (Exit)> Na_nashi
Your hit and run is really great nashi .. keep up the good work