Doing that for some people in here ..will posts all my words about RELIGION what i have said .1)
I WANT TO KNOW WHERE YOU SEE THAT I HAVE SAID that if you arent musilms YOU have to be killed !!!!!!!!!!!! IF you dont answer me to this means YOU are talking just BS and nothing with sense
POSTING ALL my words from all post for religion ..you can check it also ,if i missed something
1 )Well ....knows the discussion for religion is not good idea in net ..but today our admin .provoked me so will post something specially for him in here ,will try to explain to our admin my personal views about religion ..Not going even start whats Islam or whatever ...the question is not to talk about what Islam is or what Cristianity is ..the question is ..that i find for deffinetely wrong the statement that strong belivers have low intelect ..
Religion is a universal intellect, a guidance from beyond human reason and human experience.
So that he may survive and fulfill his functions as God’s vicegerent, man is empowered with three principal faculties. These are his appetites — for the opposite sex, offspring, livelihood, commodities, etc.; his anger or forcefulness in defense and struggle; and his power of reasoning or intellect. Since man is tested in his worldly life and has freedom of will, these faculties are not restricted in creation by God. However, man’s individual and collective happiness lies in his disciplining them for the sake of a harmonious, peaceful social life. Unless he so disciplines them, these faculties may drive man to immorality, illicit sexual relationships, unlawful livelihood, tyranny, injustices, deception and falsehood, and other vices. To prevent the chaos and suffering that must follow undisciplined exercise of human powers, man must submit to an authority that will guide and regulate his collective affairs. Since subjugating some people to others more wealthy and powerful means an open injustice and it is impossible for humankind to find out a justice to encompass all people, there is need for a universal intellect, a guidance from beyond human reason and human experience, to whose authority all may freely give their assent. That guidance is the religion revealed and perfected for man by God through His Prophets.
Many people have high level of intelect (here u have to difine what excatly means intelect - is a term used to describe a property of the mind that encompasses many related abilities, such as the capacities to reason, to plan, to solve problems, to think abstractly, to comprehend ideas, to use language, and to learn. There are several ways to define intellect. In some cases, intellect may include traits such as creativity, personality, character, knowledge, or wisdom ) and those people they can belive STRONG in their religion ...Some of those people they pray (In islam ), 5 times by a day,cristians in their church ..they believe the world came from Adam and Eve ,they believe everthing what you doing in this earth u will pay for it later in the eternity (Hell or Heaven ) and etc .
Many intellectuals assert that servanthood to God or religious life is a compensatory device contrived to console man for his own weaknesses and defects. Nevertheless, although modern man, armed with science and technology, entertains the illusion that he can be free of belief in and servanthood to a Supreme Being, and though he sees himself as a powerful one, yet he will, if it serves his self-interest, so far abase himself as to bow in worship before the meanest thing.
The sincere believer does not degrade himself to bow in worship before even the greatest of the created. He is a dignified servant of God who does not take as object of worship a thing of even the greatest benefit like Paradise. Though a modest servant, and gentle in his nature and his bearing, he does not lower himself voluntarily before anybody other than his Creator beyond what He has permitted. Though aware of his weakness and neediness before God, he is independent of others, because he relies upon the Wealth and Power of his One Master.
As a simple human what we all are we cant find all answers ..we have the capacity to use not more then 6 procent of our brain so Space_Phantom26 one thing is to have knowedge for many things ...very different thing is to want to go out of your limits ...even for you thats impossible : )
PP .we are humans..only humans well of course the smartess creatures in this World ....so i suggest that u start looking answers for yourself for examle :what more u can do in your life ?how u can improve yourself ,how u can help people ,how u will raise your kids,what u will leave after you ,how to find peace in your soul ,how u can make people around you happier , (so many questions u have to find the answer ) thats what with YOUR limited mind (laughing ) can do .Dont forget your ,our minds are limited if we were with 100 % working minds then we will be not humans .
2)Well i guess i shoulda say one big WOW : )and to end this subject like it started
Ty for all people sharing their views and of course like most know i am totaly disagree .
1) Simon ,your avatar is (not going even use programe to translate ) disgusting !thats so offending and so bad that i have no words to explain ..This kind of jokes with a Prophet like Jesus OFFEND every beliver (no matter crsitian or musilm ) ..not going dicuss your views is enough only to see the avatar : )
2 ) Space ,there is something what totaly shock me in your post :U have big Faith but u arent religious ..sigh ...a person who have faith cant say that : )one person can be religious or not ..everthing in middile is nothing :)U cant say u are beliver but u dont believe that the World comes from Adam and Eve .
3 ) Rach there are many peole who call themself belivers ..some belive in cows ..another belive in sky ..and etc ...thats not a religion is a group of people ..tolerating such a thoughs is simple a sin
4 ) G .eh G ,what i can say about your post ?! the only that between your and my views there is NO big difference : )u are cristian and i am musilm WE both knows whats religion and of course we have a questions about it but we find the answers in our Books .U have a homework ...100 years after Jesus was gone in Rom the Imperators deleted the last sentence in the BIble find out what was this sentence : )Thats the first chaging of the origianl Bible .
5 ) SI ,i am totaly agree with you that America and Uk make everthing for Its interest ..thats IN what i am not agree with Legend we have different views what exactly means terrorist ONLY God can take people lifes !!! God give birth God take it !!!!
6 ) Lilie if u didnt want to cuss ,,trust me i hardly hold myself to start cuss after reading your last post : )Relgion and Science are two things in ONE !!!!! In Religion there is No miracle .there is God power !!!Many things cant be explained with Science and u know that ..then they say Miracle ...but thats God !!! Religion is built in NON correction WOW .... there is nothing more correct then the Religion ...every law every rule in Bible or in Koran is CORRECT .The Relgion doesnt devide people ...Dont forget that cant all people go in Heaven ,Hell needs people too so : ).
Now to clear i did read many times Bible ...is very comon with the Koran and here i have to say something ....every translation to the Bible make it far from the original .Now about Koran if u dont read the Koran in arabic means u know nothing .I cant read it in arabic so my knowedge is very little cause in whatevere language i read it 30 years will be not enough to understand it .One letter changed in arabic the meaning is gone ...isnt like to type "delte "and you english people will know i meant "delete " .Nope One letter wrong means ANOTHER meaning ..
Well i was far from to start explain whats cristianity and Islam but after read all postings well ..You know people will pray for you all and that u find peace one day in your souls : )
AMEN
Maggie
Thomas ,
I was reading your post and lets say I am quiet surprised and shocked from all what u said …
I didn’t want to write anymore in this topic ,but your post provoked me reply .
“Are you serious? Lillie is SO right in stating that religion was and is used to keep the masses dumb and to have them follow their religious leader without questions.”
Thomas are u really believe everybody who belives means they don’t have questions ???
So me being musilm make me dumb ,I don’t have questions for my religion , ??Of course I do ,
There are so many questions which people have to ask and to know the answer .
“Religion has always been used to scare people, if you don't have facts to convince people, just scare the hell out of them (literally”
Religion isn’t made to scare people , religion have to make you better person , to make difference between the good and bad : ) because if u don’t believe Its means u can do whatever u want no matter what is it .. Of course people have to know, and that’s NOT to scare .is just that every move what they do ..there is count about that … there is God who watch .
“Are you going to stay a virgin till after you married? (I am assuming you're not married yet, sorry if i'm wrong)” Like a good catholic?
Thomas ,
Dear new member , I will accept this of your question like bad try to show us your sense of humor : )
I am not going even discus your last questions Thomas but me personaly find them for kinda offending .
I hope u will exuse my poor English , and I know your post was about Legend .but you just point out everybody who belives so I decided to reply
Maggie
4)Hello Thomas ,
Thank you for replying , i am not going discuss your post ,not going even go into that why your friend had to marry a virgin one and etc .Because i dont go into convos about what is Islam ,what people do in the name of the religion and etc
I know about my self , i care about my belives ,so u have the same rigth : )
Maggie
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yawn ..i think we had before same topic so no need to say something
And i think this subject is too personal .......and i am not going into same subject..doesnt worth the efforts ..i am believe in God ...i am Muslim and for me that's the right thing ..This what other think ..doesnt concern me
Maggie
6) Endrin i suggest that u read all this and u will know we discussed that before ..https://xxxgodxxx.forumotion.com/the-big-issues-f10/religion-part-1-religion-and-intellect-t50.htm
And i know for sure only one thing :discussing religion with EVERYBODY is just waste of time ...is good that u realise u can offend many with your post personally i just started read your post and then stopped .
Will say one last thing :
believing is BIg THING ...few people can understand it can feel it
Religion as like that isn't for everybody ...that's why there is Hell and Heaven ..if could everybody believe there will be no need of Hell .
BTW i wanted say something to Space who removed all offending religion avatars ..
Simons avatar .Adrs avatar ..I think that was the right thing ..such a avatars offend every believer ..no matter Muslim Cristian and etc ....of course there is freedom but when this freedom offend somebody's believes then have to be stopped : ))
7 )Fox i even didnt start to offend somebody ..... of course there are some things which cant be allowed get it u uneducated little boy ??
Like all other i post my Opinion BUT without to offend somebody !!!
So i think everybody have to do it in this way u understand ?
You really shouldnt allow bitterness to take such a grip on your emotions : )
and one thing is Voltaire not Voltair!!!
Endrin i am agree with that religion is sensitive subject at least for me i never deny it !!!Its too personal thing too
The best what i can do is to stop discuss it ...always ends as argument .I know already i discuss religion only with choiced people (u prolly wont understand that with non -belivers i dont like to talk about religion ) I would like to discuss with you everything else ..hmmm lets think what else we can discuss : ))
Fox .... "Question: If I am offended by your Avatar, will you remove it?" yeah Fox if my avatar offend somebody believes has to be removed .. I dont know adrs avatar but i seen Simons Avatar .such a jokes with Prophets have to be removed immediately .I understand different people have different opinion BUT i dont accept that OFFENDING somebody belives is freedom of speech .Some things have to be with limits
"Yes it did make someone look stupid, but it's a shame it was Maggie and Space."
FOx NOBODY can make me look stupid u know why ??because i am quiet smart and educated woman ..The fact i cant talk English like you means nothing ..i know other languages and i accept my self for an intelligent person :)about Space being stupid i suggest that u find another word we all know Space and he can be everything else but NOT a stupid : ))
"My only aim is to provoke a reaction and it works every time. " ..Well we all post something to get some reaction ....u post topic we reply ..we post topic u reply ..of course the negative reaction have to be with some limits .
I hope we are done with WHY somebody avatars were removed ..i suggest Fox that we speak for something else like ..well hmm what about do u have any idols in your life ?Do u want to be like somebody esle ?to has his /her life ?
I will look for your honest answers : ))
Maggie